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TwllMawr

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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 03/03/2018 11:33:17
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Is What's named Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine on AN and Ratgoed Quarry or Cymerau Quarry on the OS maps one and the same?

There's little to see at the location for FFynnon B although there is a place name on the map. whereas there are no entries for the latter two quarries.

... Planning a few walks so if anyone has some knowledge/history of the enterprises I'd be grateful Smile

Thanks

Ffynnon badarn - SH775114
Ratgoed - SH78191185
Cymerau - SH 7801211585


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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 03/03/2018 13:06:02
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Cymerau Quarry and Ratgoed Quarry are two totally separate entities. There is another quarry in between on that side of the river.

I am not familiar with Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine, so cannot comment. From the marker on OS Map it seems to be on opposite side of the river.

There is not much to see at Cymerau Quarry, but lots to see at Ratgoed Quarry.

Just looked at the page again and checked the map associated with it showing nearby mines. Cymerau Quarry doesn't seem to be on the AN database at all not even under a different name.

I have now added it. How do you add it to a mining region though?

Oh dear, it does exist on the database, but in totally the wrong location!!! Simon, could you fix it please?
IP: 86.166.196.246 Edited: 03/03/2018 13:23:37 by JohnnearCfon
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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 03/03/2018 14:32:18
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Thanks for that. I only searched 2km around Aberlleffenni on the map and just missed the Ratgoed marker. Cymerau seems a tad off though. Still, Ffynnon Badarn looks to be a mystery as there’s nothing around there that I can spot.

Think I need to quiz this Simon RL chap about Ratgoed. His photos seem to pop up everywhereSmile

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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 03/03/2018 15:17:45
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Does this clarify anything?

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/400828/details/ffynnon-badarn-slate-workings-se-of

Edit: 1901 mapping shows a smithy and level at site.

More Info.

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/400829/details/cymerau-slate-quarry-southcymerau-quarry-south-aberllefenni
IP: 86.186.141.251 Edited: 03/03/2018 15:33:52 by Morlock
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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 03/03/2018 18:19:30
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Yep Thanks. So south of Ratgoed quarry everything's Cymerau other than a singular small level called Ffynnon Badarn on the west side which appeared between map versions 1887 and 1900

Although the maps refer to Cymerau quarry adjacent to the east side of the Aberllefenny shafts (up the hill), there's little to identify any working, only the spoil and presumably dressing sheds.

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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 03/03/2018 19:11:58
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TwllMawr wrote:

Thanks for that. I only searched 2km around Aberlleffenni on the map and just missed the Ratgoed marker. Cymerau seems a tad off though. Still, Ffynnon Badarn looks to be a mystery as there’s nothing around there that I can spot.

Think I need to quiz this Simon RL chap about Ratgoed. His photos seem to pop up everywhereSmile


It was doing it that way that made me miss that Cymerau was on the database. It is in the position that I marked on the duplicate error entry I created earlier. There isn't much to see there though, just a flooded inclined shaft and a slate tip. There is a row of cottages nearby.
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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 05/03/2018 12:05:24
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JohnnearCfon wrote:



Oh dear, it does exist on the database, but in totally the wrong location!!! Simon, could you fix it please?


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Ffynnon Badarn Slate Mine
Posted: 15/07/2018 11:55:03
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I have always assumed Ffynnon Badarn is the small trial ca 110 m WNW of the eponymous house; unlike Ratgoed and Cymerau which are Narrow Vein mines, FB lies in the Broad Vein IP: 46.208.143.26
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