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Posted: 06/06/2017 18:52:00
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Thanks Roy.Smile IP: 109.147.81.139
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Posted: 06/06/2017 19:24:44
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I am playing with it in Photoshop and now have a black on white line drawing which I am making into a modern plan, possibly fill in falls etc.

There are some interesting little skills one can learn with Photoshop.

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Posted: 08/06/2017 15:46:04
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I have just uploaded an easy to print black and white plan for those going underground, there will also be a white background copy of the abandonment plan on the NAL website, looks rather pretty. I dont want to clutter up AN with too many and the NAL downloads are higher resolution.

The wonders of Photoshop.

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Posted: 25/09/2017 15:39:56
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On Saturday 23rd Sept 2017 I attended a rescue practice by South and Mid Wales Cave Rescue. Pictures below.



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I also looked at the road above the Dinas Rock car park from which a Public Right of Way leads directly to the mine over the footbridge.

There are two newly erected walls either side of the tarmac public road, with obvious intention to fit a gate. Further up, nothing has been done to reinstate the PROW.

I shall be contacting the local authority again, and may well serve a notice on them under section 130 A-D of the Highways Act 1980.


For informational Purposes.

The mines on the opposite side of the river are not Pencaedrain property but belong to the Marquis of Bute.

The deliberate blocking of a highway (Right of Way) is a criminal offence under Section 137 of the Highways Act 1980. Offenders can face a fine and criminal record.

There is no reason to confine interference to physical interference. (To a Public Right of Way) An object can get in the way of the right of passage or other amenity rights because of its psychological impact.’ Herrick v Kidner and Somerset County Council, 2014.

Section 130A-D of the Highways Act 1980(2)) empowers a member of the public to serve a notice on the highway authority to get an illegal obstruction removed from a highway.

More on the website www.naturalamenities.co.uk


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IP: 88.108.11.91 Edited: 25/09/2017 15:41:28 by royfellows
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Posted: 26/09/2017 11:33:14
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More on this.
The usual route which starts adjascent to the car park is a steeply ascending route which climbs to some height and then requires the visitor to climb back down again to the level of the mine.
The alternative route is an easy ascent of a public tarmac road to the point where a Public Right of Way heads north for about 400 metres to the mine across a footbridge.



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At this time the council road has the structure shown in the photo, the PROW is blocked by landfill and brushwood at its southern end.

Divers could drive up the public road , drop passengers and kit, and then return to the main Dinas Rock car park. Even walking all the way by this route is about a third of the effort of the usual route.



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There is nothing now in law to stop anyone using this route. But they would need to clear the physical obstruction of the brushwood and climb the edge of the landfill tip.

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I wonder about the abandoned flip flops, but how does baling twine get into MY mine?
IP: 88.108.11.91 Edited: 26/09/2017 11:38:27 by royfellows
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Posted: 26/09/2017 18:18:21
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Could this be acquired with a view to using the ideal access route, the tunnel from Bwa Maen to the Dinas mine bridge?

http://bjpco.com/property/25685853/

Edit: I suppose it all depends on the 'Special Areas of Conservation' boundary, looks like a non-starter.
IP: 86.178.29.169 Edited: 26/09/2017 18:34:51 by Morlock
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Posted: 26/09/2017 22:05:52
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Sorry late replying, just got in from karate.

The land for sale appears to be titles CYM511097 and 511091 from Land registry records. I venture the opinion that the asking price is rather optimistic for 15 acres of woodland. I would also venture to suggest that the presence of the Blue Dinas and Middle Dinas mines would be viewed by a prospective purchaser as a potential liability, although legally the property of the Marquis of Bute. One photo shows both sides of the river which cheekily includes the land belonging to Welsh Government and my mineral area.

In order to restore the tunnel route the bridge over the Afon Sychryd would have to be rebuilt, this would undoubtedly meet SSSI refusal. The western entrance I believe is partially collapsed as well, I dont know as I have not been through.

A path could be made through the woodland from a point just over the bridge by Dinas car park I suppose.

A lovely area though.




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Posted: 27/09/2017 04:16:26
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Agree, the sale price is a little optimistic for what may well be a future liability.

Edit: IIRC, the lower end of the tunnel just needs the dumped scree slope dug away.
IP: 86.178.29.169 Edited: 27/09/2017 09:23:41 by Morlock
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Posted: 26/10/2017 10:09:29
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Hi People

I would appreciate it very much is people visiting the mine could keep me up to speed with developments regarding the 'structure' being erected across the tarmac public road, as shown in the photograph.

I am particularly interested in its 'finished' state, whenever it gets to be finished.

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Posted: 05/01/2018 19:33:05
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3D laser scan made of Dinas Silica Mine in Christmas period: https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=22965.0;topicseen Might be interesting to see the results? IP: 94.12.123.141
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