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Bracelet Bay Iron Mine, Mumbles
Posted: 29/08/2016 08:26:29
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Does anyone have or know of any sources of information relating to the iron workings accessed from Bracelet Bay, Mumbles, South Wales?

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Posted: 29/08/2016 08:42:48
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Guessing you've found this already?

http://www.explore-gower.co.uk/explore/gower-beaches/limeslade-bay

http://www.mindat.org/loc-13645.html
IP: 86.183.246.154 Edited: 29/08/2016 08:44:33 by Morlock
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Bracelet Bay Iron Mine, Mumbles
Posted: 29/08/2016 08:51:36
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I was intrigued by the name so also had a meander, the link below isn't strictly what you were asking about but does have some fine photos of haematite outcroppings on the Limeslade Bay. Looks a good place for a wander on a sunny summer's evening.

https://natureinfocus.wordpress.com/category/places/gower-peninsula/limeslade-bay/
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Bracelet Bay Iron Mine, Mumbles
Posted: 29/08/2016 16:19:30
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It may be worth having a look up the lower drain hole in the retaining wall image or any other holes that cannot be seen in the image.

https://natureinfocus.wordpress.com/2013/10/17/haematite-at-limeslade-bay-east/p1450325haematiteatlimesladebay8/
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Posted: 30/08/2016 09:59:04
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The vague grid reference is for the centre of the opencast. The workings extend north from Bracelet Bay right across the headland.

Various references refer to the workings from about 1880 to 1890. Others mention extraction back to Roman times. There must be some more details written sources. I'll try the Records Office & Library at Swansea County Hall.
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Posted: 30/08/2016 10:01:31
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Hadn't come across this article. Photos are excellent. I'll have to go down and see if I can find exactly where they were taken. IP: 81.149.247.5
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Bracelet Bay Iron Mine, Mumbles
Posted: 01/09/2016 13:25:43
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About 10 years back, part of the main road collapsed into old workings on the beach side of the road. A rift about 8m was revealed and it looked like part of the older, deeper workings to the old mine. I took a pic or two and will try and post on here.

There is an old adit at Rotherslade where iron was mined. That is still accessible and it is known as Doctor's Mine.
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Posted: 11/09/2016 11:41:06
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I'm not sure whether this is Doctor's Mine. Contemporary descriptions put it nearer to Ram's Tor. There are a number of faults on the peninsula running generally north south. It would appear that they have been tried for iron ore over the centuries. I'm intrigued about the location of this mine; I will dig deeper. IP: 86.186.122.45
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Limeslade Bay and Dr's Mine Iron Mines,, Mumbles
Posted: 12/11/2017 07:29:24
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Iron Ore at Limeslade and Dr’s Mine, Mumbles, near Swansea.

12th November 2017.

The fault and mine are on and above the beach at Limeslade Bay, west of Swansea, on the eastern most corner of the Gower Peninsula. Bracelet Bay is just to the east.

Buy a vanilla ice cream from the famous Forte's Cafe and look over into Limestone Bay itself, which was formed as the result of erosion along a significant fault, which extends from the bay, over Mumbles Hill, and the Langland Bay Anticline, emerging near to the Mumbles Yacht Club.

The fault zone is characterized by the presence of often red stained crystalline calcite and haematite. It has always been assumed that the red colour is derived from an earlier unconformable cover of continental Triassic red beds, as can be seen at outcrop to the east, in places such as Penarth and Sully.

When I was a boy we used to fish for bass, with the rising tide, in the gullies along this part of the coast. Dr's Mine, was a favourite spot, close to my home. It is about a kilometer to the west of Limeslade, between Jinny's Gut and Lambs Well Bay, before Rotherslade and Langland Bays. As at Limeslade there is another small bay excavated along a fault zone. Looking up the beach towards the cliff you will note a larger cave to the left and to the right the fault zone, which leads up to a tunnel partly eroded by the sea and presumably partly hacked out by miners long ago. As at Limeslade the fault zone contains fault breccias, white and red coloured crystalline calcite and blood red haematite. Getting to this bay is a bit tricky and should only be done at low tide.
Dr's Mine bay contains interesting exposures of Quaternary sediments, including the Patella raised beach, a limestone breccia 'head' and polymictic, often mud supported, conglomeratic glacial out-wash, above the main Carboniferous Limestone. Pebbles and boulders in the beach are derived from the local limestone, the fault zone and also Late Carboniferous and Devonian sandstones eroded out from the glacial out-wash and presumably derived from exposures to the north. Occasionally you may find more exotic rocks, which were probably sourced from ballast jettisoned from a stream ship, SS. Tyne, which was grounded near bye, one hundred years ago.

Half a kilometer further to the west is Rotherslade Bay, with it's stack, locally known as the 'big rock'. In one corner of the bay there is another fault zone, which could also have been mined. A cave, which is now bricked up, once yielded elephant bones.

Some have suggested that the mine at Limeslade was initially excavated during Roman times, but I always wondered if this inference was based on direct evidence or analogy with similar mines, in places such as the Mendips and the Great Orme. New evidence from an archaeological excavation, of a midden, on nearby Mumbles Hill though does suggest, at least, a small scale Roman presence, in the third century AD, possibly associated with quarrying or mining. Further evidence of the Roman presence is indicated from pieces of mosaic excavated. at nearby Oystermouth Parish Church.

There is some evidence that the iron in this mines was used even earlier from the red staining of the ritually buried remains of the Paviland 'Lady', now regarded as male, discovered in a cave near to Port Eynon Bay and most recently dated as 33,000 BP.

I would be interested to know whether small scale operations such as those at Limeslade and Dr's Mine were for the extraction of ore for making iron and or ochre for paint.

………and am always interested to learn more about this fascinating and beautiful stretch of coastline......

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Posted: 12/11/2017 10:34:38
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Very interesting Robert. I’ve lived on the edge of Gower for nearly 30 years, however only moved to Langland a year ago. You mentioned Ginny’s Gut and Lambs Well Bay. I’ve heard the names locally, but never found them on a map. I assume they’re somewhere between Rothers Sker and Rams Tor. I have been down on the rocks at low water, but not found what I’m looking for. Aerial views show various collapses. I took this photo at MHWM about 200 m east of the cafe at Rotherslade.IP: 86.171.244.119
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Posted: 12/11/2017 14:16:17
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I assume this is the photo?



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Posted: 12/11/2017 17:41:28
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Yes. My apologies. Haven’t uploaded a photo before. There must be a knack. I imported from my photos, it turned through 90 degrees and posted before I found out how to edit it.

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Posted: 15/11/2017 07:29:30
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Hi Mark

Nice photo, but not sure about the location and will have to revisit when I am back in the country..........probably by about next May.

The terms Lambs Well and Jinny's Gut may not be on the map, and neither Crab Island or Doctor's Mine. They were used locally, especially when I was growing up in Thistleboon.

First of all Crab Island is Rothers Sker, which is on some maps.
Lambs Well is the pebbly beach inland of Crab Island and a couple of hundred meters east of Rotherslade [or Little Langland].
Immediately after Lambs Well there is a land slip, [20m from the coastal path] which can be used to get down onto the upper part of the rocks. Go east by a hundred meters or so to the little rocky and pebbly bay we call Doctor's Mine.
Jinny's Gut is another couple of meters to the east before Rams Tor.
Doctor's Mine can be reached at low water or from the rock ledge above, but Jinny's Gut, as I remember, can only be accessed at low water.

I am trying to add some photos, but I am new to this site and don't seems to have the knack................yet

They are or would have been:
View looking out from the head of Doctor's Mine, out to sea and along a broad gully, which is along the line of the main fault.
View of the larger opening next to the mine
View of the tunnel leading to the mine...there was an aluminum barrel jammed in the roof last time i was there a month or so ago......suggest you wear a helmet if you go inside.
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Posted: 15/11/2017 19:02:12
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I look forward to seeing the pictures; good luck with the upload. I don’t appear to have the knack, yet. Obviously others do, as there are some great images on the site.

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