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Posted: 15/01/2016 16:54:07
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Some where on the web is footage taken circa 1994 of the Flying Scotsman (68103) with my mate's late farther in the cab, he was one of the top boiler re tubers in the country, the late great Joe Butcher.

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Posted: 16/01/2016 20:00:23
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Going off on a completely different tack, I'm guessing this component of the Long Rake winding engine is a displacement lubricator - can the steam-heads here confirm if this is so and more importantly, can anyone suggest where I might be able to source an identical one?



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Posted: 16/01/2016 20:26:48
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Are there any connected bits that are not included in the image, condenser coil or any additional pipework?

Edit: The square item above looks like the actual lubricator?

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/SuperSize/Long-Rake-Winder_98259/
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Posted: 16/01/2016 21:13:50
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Its a type of oil pot. The plug cock at the base allows the operator to isolate the pot from the steam chest to refill it whilst the engine is in use. A lot of earlier engines used tallow as a lubricant instead of oil, this would be kept warm somewhere on the engine/boiler so it would pour more easily.

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Posted: 16/01/2016 21:18:47
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There's a mechanical lubricator system on the right-hand side above this item, there should be an identical item on the left-hand cylinder but it's missing, hence why I'm looking into sourcing a replacement. I'm assuming they're sat on valve chests which is why I'm thinking they're displacement lubricators but I don't claim any great expertise in steam engines!



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Posted: 16/01/2016 21:34:20
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Displacement lubricators are usually a bit taller and have a small drain valve at the base of the body to drain off the condensate that results from the displacement of the oil, loads of pics on Google. Its possible that the engines lubrication has been uprated from a basic one shot system to the later mechanical one fitted at some stage in it life. The added advantage of the mechanical is it could also feed the crank and other bearings if it had enough feeds.

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Posted: 16/01/2016 22:26:33
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How many oil outlet fittings are there on the back side of the box? IP: 31.49.115.63
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Posted: 17/01/2016 11:07:25
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Without going down for a look, I couldn't say how many oil connections are on the mechanical lubricator off the top of my head though it is a later addition, from recollection the maker's plate had a 1930s or 1940s date on it.

I think the item I've pictured does have a drain cock out of view, possibly controlled by the lever on the right and I'd guessed that the one on top controlled the amount of steam getting in to the chamber to operate it?

Anyway, I'm going to be working on site in a fortnight's time and I need to get photos of various bits, in particular the cracked slide so I can get some idea of fixing costs, but I'll put some more up here.

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Posted: 17/01/2016 12:57:11
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I suspect that a displacement lubricator may well have been fitted when operating on steam and later modified to a mechanical type when operated on air.

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Posted: 18/01/2016 18:55:10
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tiger99 wrote:

It is unfortunate that the paint colour and numbering have become highly political. It should be only apple green and 4472 if originality matters. No black or BR green, or any other number.


despite the £4.5m spent, not everybody was happy with the restoration Roll Eyes



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Posted: 19/01/2016 00:37:28
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legendrider wrote:

tiger99 wrote:

It is unfortunate that the paint colour and numbering have become highly political. It should be only apple green and 4472 if originality matters. No black or BR green, or any other number.


despite the £4.5m spent, not everybody was happy with the restoration Roll Eyes



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Posted: 08/02/2016 01:16:17
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Seems even a duck can be controversial.Laugh

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Posted: 14/05/2016 21:54:26
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Latest from 'The Wail'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3590315/Flying-Scotsman-s-visit-north-border-cancelled-11th-hour-Network-Rail-failed-check-line-despite-given-12-WEEKS-notice-historic-train-make-far-Edinburgh.html
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Posted: 09/09/2017 06:04:41
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Small coal spectacular, bits filmed at night are interesting.

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Looks like someone forgot to put the smokebox screens back......if ever there were any Laugh

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The primary school I attended in the early 50s was next to Coity sidings, it was frequently plagued by grass fires caused by pannier tank ejections.Big Grin IP: 86.178.31.116
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Posted: 11/09/2017 19:39:40
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On my way home today spotted a small green steam loco on the back of a large truck heading west along the North Devon link road - as the Lynton and Barnstaple's new rebuild 2-4-2T "Lyn" is due any minute it's a fair guess that's what it was.

On checking the L&B website I see that they are "twinned" with the Walhalla Goldfields Railway in Victoria, Oz; the info refers to "record breaking" Long Tunnel Goldmine and it's neighbour Extended Long Tunnel Goldmine, the railway being built (too late by the sound of it) to serve the mines and the community nearby.
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