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Author Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 05/12/2016 10:52:40
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Some photos:

1st fall at work site from last year, shale stacked to clear the passage:



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Hanging shale at 1st fall:



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2nd Fall, coming through inbye:



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2nd Fall and the run after the tight bit:



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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 05/12/2016 11:05:07
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OK forget arching!

That's horrid.
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Posted: 05/12/2016 12:21:08
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Miles-M wrote:

Masonry arch with dressed deads? Not hard to do.

When in rome...

Doesn't work with shale as a building material...

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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 05/12/2016 14:17:53
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Eewwww...Mike.... now THAT's nasty.

It needs either shifting or propping or it'll just close up. Timber is ok but not so much as a long-term solution; steel would be good, using them as horizontal cross-pieces atop packwalls.

Shale roof will always try to drop - we've all seen V-shaped shale strata lurking above a nice stone arch - but hopefully it might possible to protect the roadway in this manner and keep it open for future explorers.

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Posted: 05/12/2016 15:34:12
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I went through it all earlier in the year, but I suppose I would wouldn't I
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Posted: 05/12/2016 15:47:40
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Is there anything really that good on the other side? IP: 87.224.72.55
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Posted: 05/12/2016 15:58:06
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Miles-M wrote:

Is there anything really that good on the other side?


The traverse, The High Level via Archers Rise and the SRT trip to Smallcleugh via Bog Shaft are all top quality trips.
Caplecleugh is by far the most entertaining mine, at least in my opinion. What isn't that good about it?

Any way I can help to keep this level open, shifting materials, digging, whatever else, sign me up.
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Posted: 05/12/2016 16:02:12
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Miles-M wrote:

Is there anything really that good on the other side?


http://www.aditnow.co.uk/Album/Photographs-Of-Capelcleugh_4068/

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Posted: 05/12/2016 16:05:47
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Mr Mike wrote:

Miles-M wrote:

Is there anything really that good on the other side?


http://www.aditnow.co.uk/Album/Photographs-Of-Capelcleugh_4068/


Who could deny all that water is fun!
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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 05/12/2016 16:35:47
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It is in truth my favorite Nenthead trip, and one that is not to be taken lightly. I first explored the far reaches in the late 1980s and became intrigued by what could be at the top of some of rises, this was the incentive for the more serious forays written up in my "Explorers Guide"

The deep water and shale crawls to tend to put off the more casual and I have to admit that I feel this contributes to the generally unspoiled nature of the place.

I have taken small groups through in recent years, my typical being to lavatory box junction, right towards Longholehead Whimsey, up around loop flats and on to Caplecleugh Shaft. Return to Lavatory Box, head east and up around the North Flats, back down to the level and going towards Smallcleugh left along James Hills Branch Level, up the rise and around the 2 horizons of workings, back down, proceed east and up Double Rise to exit by way of Smallcleugh. Probably 8 hours continuously on the move.

Its a good way to burn off excess energy.
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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 05/12/2016 19:28:43
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Roy you will probably know a little more than myself about the shale falls.
But on the August 1977 trip to which I have already referred, I remember, climbing up above these blocks, crawling along in the space, between the roof and the ginging and then returning back to the horse level.
This was considered the to be the way into the mine, since it was safer than negotiating the shale blocks.
On the way back I forgot about this and went through the blocks, and it seems that this became the accepted new route.
My point is does the 'old route'above the slabs exist now, or has it been squashed by shale movements?
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Posted: 05/12/2016 22:49:04
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I cant place anything from your description.

The crawls are on and off for quite a distance, I have learnt to recognise the start and the end of the 'misery'

It starts, going inbye, with a manger on the left, it ends with a 'flat' area just before an arched section with deep water.
It must have changed a lot over the years. There is one section where the fall is so old that it has been flattened smooth by all the explorers going over it.

There is a fresh fall from about 18 months ago well past the shale section, where you go through some partially collapsed and 'hanging' arching. This is not shale either.

I am thinking that there has been a lot of general ground movement over the past few years, fresh falls in some Welsh mines. Then of course there is Rampgill as well.

I have been going through Caplecleugh for over 30 years and nothing changed much until recently. That's my take on it anyway.

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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 12/02/2017 21:37:38
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Travelled through the falls today (twice, for my sins...).
At the end of the work done last year, there appears to have been a substantial amount come down. I recall a cantilevered block perched around there. That has now gone.
It is now flat out crawling, rather than hands and knees.
The small hole at the end of the falls felt tighter too, looked like more had come down around there.
Thought provoking stuff.
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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 13/02/2017 09:10:12
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If we not careful we'll loose it!

Pity cant get a few lengths of twinlock in there.
If you don't know what it is, look at the tubes at Cwmystwyth

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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 19/02/2017 20:53:48
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3 MOLES spent today braying hell out of blocks of shale clearing this fall.
Another big fall in the area previously cleared in 2015 was also tackled, along with the one holding the water that backs up as far as Lavatory Box Junction. All still need work but now 'stooping' rather than 'flat out crawl'. Another couple of areas looking a bit fragile.
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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 19/02/2017 21:53:53
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Good effort all. IP: 82.9.211.78
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Posted: 20/02/2017 10:20:21
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Excellent work

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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 12/03/2017 21:54:45
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Back in Caplecleugh today.
The collapse recently cleared at the site of the 2015 work has come down again.
My companion moved some blocks, but once again there is a crawl.
I didn't find it pleasant, and I'm often in CCLL.

On another note, good effort with the final bit of the shale falls. They've tidied up nicely.
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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 24/04/2017 13:02:47
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Latest on the Danger Zone (Copyright RF) in Caplecleugh...

Coming through last Friday, a fair bit of rock has now been moved so the flat-out crawl that confronted us has now been enlarged to a more reasonable size. We were a bit limited by only having a lump hammer so couldn't reduce the slab size, a return trip with proper hitting equipment will happen in the near future.

There is still a lot of rock in a fairly unstable state so be very careful through here...

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Caplecleugh Low Level, Nenthead
Posted: 24/04/2017 14:14:46
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We travelled through this area Friday night. The difference was dramatic, we could see someone had done a fair bit of work. Great job.

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