Mine exploration, photographs and mining history for mine explorers, industrial archaeologists, researchers and historians Mine explorer and mining history videos on YouTube Connect with other mine explorers on Facebook
Tip: do not include 'mine' or 'quarry', search by name e.g. 'cwmorthin', use 'Sounds like search' if unsure of spelling

Advanced Search
'Sounds like search'
Quick a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Tip: narrow down your search by typing more than one word and selecting 'Search for all words' or 'Exact search'

Search for any word
Search for all words
Exact search
Tip: narrow down your search by typing more than one word and selecting 'Search for all words' or 'Exact search'

Search for any word
Search for all words
Exact search

Mine Exploration Forum

Author Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 29/10/2011 19:57:49
Reply |  Quote
Does anyone have any up to date info on this mine. Situated at NY 3066 9693 near Glendinning, D&G. I'm heading there next week for a mooch. Have been told by a chap who knows the area that there is one gated adit. Padlocked but appears to be opened occasionally (with a key!). Other possible adits further up the valley but collapsed/bulldozed.

Told the water in the gated adit is no more than welly depth.

Any info appreciated.
Thanks.

Amended NGR. NY 313 966. I blindly copied the original NGR from an archeological site. Error! The 8 fig ref is way out.

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.89.173 Edited: 29/10/2011 20:25:51 by Pinzgauer
Heb

Avatar of Heb

Joined: 04/05/2007

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 29/10/2011 23:14:16
Reply |  Quote
It's been some time since I was up there, but don't suppose much has changed (apart from the gate on the High Level).
There are a couple of collapsed trials near the track to the mine. Before you reach the main site, there are the bases of a number of huts, probably from the last working.
The main site consists of a number of collapsed shafts, the engine shaft still has 2 winding skips nearby, the low drainage adit beside the burn is badly collapsed.
There is a small hut beside the burn (powder house?), nearby there was a hole, covered with tin sheet, this seemed to be a collapse into workings, but didn't lead anywhere (choked).
The high adit was ungated, welly depth, there was a branch to the right which went to a forehead, the left hand branch wound it's way to a small chamber with a big collapse. It was supposed to be the site of a sump to an intermediate level beween the high & low adit. Nice to get underground, but nothing much to see.
Back down at the farm, the site of the smelter can be seen, with many broken crucibles in the rubble heaps.
A nice, unspoiled site, well woth a look.
IP: 84.92.35.248 Edited: 29/10/2011 23:14:59 by Heb
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 30/10/2011 16:30:25
Reply |  Quote
Many thanks for the info. Heb. Heading up midweek, so I'll report back on the state of play.

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.92.200
rhychydwr

Avatar of rhychydwr

Joined: 09/06/2007
Location: Cwmparc, Rhondda, South Wales, UK.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 31/10/2011 20:11:03
Reply |  Quote
Louisa Antimony Mine NGR NY 3126 9960 Explorer322 Westerkirk, Dumfriesshire
aka Glendinning . Lying on the north side of Glenshanna Burn, all that is now accessible is about 100 metres of passage floored with standing water and ending in a collapse. Workings once extended to a depth of 170 metres on three levels and ceased operations in 1919.

Anon 1972 (Feb) The Louis Antimony Mine, Glendinning. Glas SS N/L (1/72) 5 S.

Butt, Johm 1967 The Industrial Archaeology of Scotland. Newton Abbot, David & Charles. 94.

Callender, R M 1982 (Sept) Ghost villages. [Louis Antimony Mine] Scots Mag 118 (6) 568, 570, illus.

Callender, Ron M 2006 The Louisa Mine revisited. British Mining (80) 88-93, 9 figs.

Dowswell, Peter 1974 (nov) Louisa Antimony Mine. GSG Ser 2 1 (1) 17-18 S

Landless 27

Macleod, Innes, 1986 Discovering Galloway. 280 pp, illus. Edinburgh, John Donald Publishers Ltd. SB £7.50 [1990 ed] pp 35

McCracken, Alex 1965 The Glendinning Antiomony Mine (Louisa Mine) Trans DGNHAS

Memoirs of the Geological Survey. Special Report on the Mineral Resources of Great Britain. 15 Arsenic and Antimony Ores. 1920

Oldham, Tony 2005 The Mines of South Western Scotland 20-22

Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland (RCAHMS) 1997 Eastern Dumfriesshire - an archaeological survey, HMSO Edinburgh (pp 276 - 277). description and full surface survey.

Stone, P. Editor 1996 Geology in south-west Scotland / An excursion guide. Keyworth, Nottingham, British Geological Survey. 182

Wilson 1921 63,


--

Cutting coal in my spare time.
IP: 86.146.59.250
rhychydwr

Avatar of rhychydwr

Joined: 09/06/2007
Location: Cwmparc, Rhondda, South Wales, UK.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 31/10/2011 20:11:59
Reply |  Quote
There is a book:


LOUISA Westerkirk NY 3126 9960 Dumfriesshire
Explorer 322

About a mile upstream from Meggart Water at the head of a tributary valley called Glenshanna Burn, on the side of Grey Hill. It is three quarters of a mine from Glendinning Farm, in the parish of Westerkirk, in the Eskdale Hills. It was the only mine to produce antimony in workable quantities in Britain.

It was operated for three short periods between 1793 and 1922.

Silurian greywacke is the country rock of the area which forms most of the Eskdale Hills. The mine has been driven straight into the hill along the line of a large fault-plane, and the minerals found occur in pockets in the crushed breccia. The principal ore is Stibnite (Antimony Sulphide, Sb2S3), which is reported to have occurred in masses up to 20 inches in thickness. Galena (Lead Sulphide PbS); Jamesonite Lead Sulphantimonite, Pb4FeSb6S14); Calcite (CaCo3); etc, have also been recorded. Some of the ore seems to have been a very complex mixture of Stibnite, Galena, and Zinc blende (Zinc Suphide, ZnS), but at least some of the Stibnite was found more or less pure, enabling the miners to select high-grade ore for smelting. A recent [1965] analysis of a sample of Stibnite ore gave the following composition:


Antimony 53.15%
Arsenic 1.32%
Lead 2.60%
Copper Trace
Nickel Trace
Zinc 0.09%
Iron 2.13%

The local laird, Sir James Johnstone of Westerhall, conducted a survey for minerals on his land and discovered antimony c1788. He formed the Westerhall Mining Company with Captain Cochran and Mr Tait as shareholders and work began in 1793. The mine was worked on three main levels between 1793 and 1798 and produced over 100 tons of Antimony, worth £8,400. Ore was smelted at the mine and evidence of this activity can be traced by the banks of the Meggart Water where water power was used to drive the bellows. Fuel was obtained locally from peat or by coal from Canonbie, which no doubt was the source of limestone used in the manufacture of pure Antimony. The product was used for speculums, bell metal and types for printing.











Glendinning Antimony Mine. General Dirom's Section


Forty men were employed, working a six-hour day for wages of £23-£26 per annum, with the usual liberties of land for a garden and some grazing. The company built a village for the workers, called Jamestown, on the heugh [= hill] by the Meggat Water. A granary was built to store meal for re-sale to miners in winter or times of dearth, at the rate at which it was purchased. A school followed, and the miners, with the earnestness for self-improvement typical of most lead-mining communities, started a library. This was instituted in 1792 with a gift of £15 worth of books, quickly augmented by the miners' own purchases. The minute book of the Jamestown Library indicates the concern of the miners for poetry, philosophy, comparative religion, geology and political economy.

The mine was re-opened ninety years later in 1880 by Sir Frederick Johnstone, but closed again in 1892, by which time some 90 tons of Antimony had been raised from the long-abandoned levels. In 1919 another attempt was made and new shafts sunk below the original workings. Mining finally ceased in 1922, the levels left to flood with water, the surface equipment dismantled and the rolling hills around Glendinning were left to the sheep.

Things to look out for: [vide Ian Hebden]. Only one level is open, this is the one marked high level on the section. This runs for a short distance to a very large roof fall. On the surface by a blocked main shaft are two really smart skips. The smelter, easily missed, was in the field by the track up to the mine from Jamestown, just over the wall by the river. Many fragments of large broken crucibles are to be found there.

Butt, John 1967 The Industrial Archaeology of Scotland. p 94 refers to the mine as Westerkirk
Callendar, Ron M 2006 The Louisa Mine revisited. British Mining (80) 88-93, 9 figs.
McCracken, Alex 1965 The Glendinning Antimony Mine (Louisa Mine) Trans DGNHAS


--

Cutting coal in my spare time.
IP: 86.146.59.250
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 31/10/2011 22:31:20
Reply |  Quote
Thanks Tony. Most comprehensive! Probably trogging up this Wednesbury. I "may" have a contact for the keyholder via a fellow bothier. Fingers crossed!

Mike.

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.85.44
rhychydwr

Avatar of rhychydwr

Joined: 09/06/2007
Location: Cwmparc, Rhondda, South Wales, UK.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 01/11/2011 06:59:18
Reply |  Quote
Pinzgauer wrote:

Thanks Tony. Most comprehensive! Probably trogging up this Wednesbury. I "may" have a contact for the keyholder via a fellow bothier. Fingers crossed!

Mike.


Mike. You really need to buy the book. There are plenty of other mines in the area.

--

Cutting coal in my spare time.
IP: 86.146.59.250
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 01/11/2011 11:52:01
Reply |  Quote
I realised yesterday that somewhere near the pre-neanderthal layer in the book pile in the loft is Jeremy Landless's writings on the area. I'll try and dig it out later. I "think" there was something in that (?). I forgotten about that. Thanks.

Mike

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.80.64
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 16/11/2011 12:00:12
Reply |  Quote
I had a gentle bimble up the Glenshanna Burn yesterday spotting the various remains en route. The "high level" adit is still gated. Gate and associated frame in good, solid condition. Close shackle padlock fitted. Clear, welly deep standing water in the level which curves round to the right after a few yards.

The present keyholder hasn't been found yet, but the lads are on the case!

Spotted the two rather nice skips in and adjacent to the cratered shaft by the engine beds. They have survived the ravages of time and artifact thieves well.

Back up at Jamestown/Eskdalemuir Forest on other business in 2 weeks. Will continue the sniff round then, weather permitting.

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.82.72
bigdavevw

Joined: 28/10/2010
Location: S/W Scotland

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 22/06/2013 20:01:31
Reply |  Quote
Hi, i,m going up tot his mine tomorrow, will take some pics and get them in the database IP: 2.126.67.36
mudbeast

Joined: 18/05/2012

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 22/06/2013 21:10:05
Reply |  Quote
Living a mile from it, I can tell you that the lady whose land the mine is on is the keyholder, but she won't let anyone into it. When I asked over a year ago she said "don't you know that mines are dangerous" IP: 86.172.48.18
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 22/06/2013 22:01:29
Reply |  Quote
mudbeast wrote:

Living a mile from it, I can tell you that the lady whose land the mine is on is the keyholder, but she won't let anyone into it. When I asked over a year ago she said "don't you know that mines are dangerous"


Thanks for that info mudbeast. It's difficult to talk sense into someone who comes out with the "mines are dangerous" rhubarb!

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.91.248
mudbeast

Joined: 18/05/2012

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 22/06/2013 22:07:40
Reply |  Quote
Everything is dangerous, people die from living, but you are right, you can't talk sense to someone like that. She inherited the land and rents it to a farmer who is not against mine exploration, but he has no say re access. I haven't given up on this one yet and will post if I ever get in there. IP: 86.172.48.18
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 23/06/2013 11:34:51
Reply |  Quote
mudbeast.... You have a pm.

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.94.42 Edited: 23/06/2013 11:35:26 by Pinzgauer
bigdavevw

Joined: 28/10/2010
Location: S/W Scotland

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 23/06/2013 16:31:52
Reply |  Quote
We never went today.

I did however phone the landowner. She isn,t keen on letting people go underground.
She used to take the odd group down years ago until a member of the NMRS hit his head on a rock, she was then advised not to let anyone else down.
She was very nice to talk to, and showed an interest in the mine, she even said she is compiling a report on it.
IP: 2.126.67.36
christwigg

Avatar of christwigg

Joined: 20/02/2008
Location: Cleveland / North Yorkshire

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 07/08/2013 12:23:24
Reply |  Quote
Stumbled across this section plan today.



(click image to open full size image in new window)
IP: 145.8.104.65
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 07/08/2013 13:29:20
Reply |  Quote
christwigg wrote:

Stumbled across this section plan today.



(click image to open full size image in new window)


Excellent find. Well done that man!

--

Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ??
IP: 79.78.89.153
CMKeighley

Joined: 01/06/2012

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 06/06/2020 16:44:51
Reply |  Quote
The website for Historic Environment Scotland, National Records of Historic Environment has a plan of surface remains, and a number of air photos of the site.
https://canmore.org.uk/site/67767
IP: 92.22.169.52
Pinzgauer

Joined: 11/12/2005
Location: North Britain.

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 06/06/2020 17:26:31
Reply |  Quote
Many thanks indeed CMKeighley for that. Quite comprehensive information. Much appreciated ! Thumb Up

--

Who threw the overalls in Mrs Murphy''s Chowder ??
IP: 81.152.194.9
derrick man

Joined: 02/01/2014

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Louisa Antimony Mine. D&G.
Posted: 05/07/2020 07:15:55
Reply |  Quote
Well, mines ARE dangerous. Ever written a Risk Assessment for mining? I have, and they aren’t pretty. IP: 81.96.123.121
Moore Books: Specialist Books I.A. Recordings: Mining and Industrial History DVDs Starless River - Caving Store Explore a Disused Welsh Slate Mine
Disclaimer: Mine exploring can be quite dangerous, but then again it can be alright, it all depends on the weather. Please read the proper disclaimer.
© 2005 to 2015 AditNow.co.uk
Top of Page