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Author The Grassington Mines Appreciation Group
Samwise

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Posted: 13/01/2019 14:55:38
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Hi all. I hope this is the right place to post this topic, if not please accept my apologies.

I've taken a bit of time off caving recently to focus my efforts on exploring the lead mines on Grassington Moor alongside my good friend John Helm. Since mid 2017, we have been exploring the numerous open shafts throughout Grassington Moor and have documented our exploration on our Facebook group the Grassington Mines Appreciation Group. Our findings have been fascinating and some of the mines we have explored have not been visited since they shut in around the 1840's. This is proven by the fact that the passages are filled with clog marks which haven't been disturbed.

Throughout or exploratory work, I have uploaded numerous videos and images to the Facebook group. If anybody would be interested in viewing these, then just request to join the Grassington Mines Appreciation Group and I will add you.


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Posted: 13/01/2019 17:02:04
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Here is a link to the group

https://m.facebook.com/groups/139701053323021?ref=share
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Posted: 13/01/2019 17:47:10
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Some great stuff on there. I've had a few surfaces walk up there over the years, but never got around to descending any of the shafts. IP: 2.122.102.145
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Posted: 13/01/2019 21:32:08
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Any chance of having some of this material added to the albums on this site for the non-Facebook users among us? Also, is there any intention to lodge an archive record of findings with NMRS? IP: 80.247.28.136
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Posted: 13/01/2019 21:40:33
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I’ll have to put a few pictures together and figure out how to add them. I’m a very new member so i’m not entirely sure how to do these things. Can you upload videos too? IP: 2.100.26.29
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Posted: 14/01/2019 12:41:18
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Samwise wrote:

Hi all. I hope this is the right place to post this topic, if not please accept my apologies.

I've taken a bit of time off caving recently to focus my efforts on exploring the lead mines on Grassington Moor alongside my good friend John Helm. Since mid 2017, we have been exploring the numerous open shafts throughout Grassington Moor and have documented our exploration on our Facebook group the Grassington Mines Appreciation Group. Our findings have been fascinating and some of the mines we have explored have not been visited since they shut in around the 1840's. This is proven by the fact that the passages are filled with clog marks which haven't been disturbed.

Throughout or exploratory work, I have uploaded numerous videos and images to the Facebook group. If anybody would be interested in viewing these, then just request to join the Grassington Mines Appreciation Group and I will add you.


Sam


I assume you have got the Northern Mines books on Grassington Moor - they are well researched and will help with your background stuff in terms of locations and will help with interpretation of sites. This is an earlier publication there other later editions which are available

https://www.moorebooks.co.uk/-USED-British-Mining-No-13-The-Mines-of-Grassington-Moore-and-Wharfedale.html

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Posted: 14/01/2019 13:54:56
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Hi Mike. Yes I have both BM 13 and 46. Very interesting reads, although from conducting the physical exploaration, the mine layout drawings don’t seem to be very accurate. IP: 94.197.121.111
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Posted: 14/01/2019 14:29:25
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Samwise wrote:

Hi Mike. Yes I have both BM 13 and 46. Very interesting reads, although from conducting the physical exploaration, the mine layout drawings don’t seem to be very accurate.
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That is often the case , abandonment plans are not always as accurate as they should and its only until explorers like yourself find errors and make more accurate updates. . At least they give more basis for the explorations and searches

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Posted: 14/01/2019 20:23:52
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Adding pictures is pretty straightforward - find the mine you want to add it to using the search box in the top right, then open the page for the mine - for example, here's the page for West Peru: https://www.aditnow.co.uk/Mines/West-Peru-Lead-Mine_20620/.

Click on the photo album on the mine page, then the Upload Photos button and fill in the details. Unfortunately, the site doesn't have the capability to host videos, only to link to ones on other sites.

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Posted: 25/02/2019 00:19:58
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Instead of uploading the pictures to the this site, we have created our own website for the Grassington Mines Appreciation Group is now live! After hours upon hours of work, the website provides visitors with an easy way of exploring the mines through videos, pictures and descriptions. Please have a look at the website, tell us what you think and if you decide to read the blog, leave a comment.

www.grassingtonmines.com
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Posted: 15/03/2019 08:21:20
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Years ago, back in 1980/81, when I was a mine surveying student at Doncaster I made a solo day trip to the Grassington mines - taking a train to Skipton then the No.72 bus up the dale to Hebden. Walking up the valley before climbing on to the moor, I put my head into Duke's level (the drainage level for the whole mining field). Just inside the stone portal, the level was driven in hard rock and appeared to 'go'. I don't think I've ever been back since, but was wondering if anyone can tell me if it really does go....and if so, how far?

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Posted: 15/03/2019 20:25:55
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I've a recollection of having a chat with someone (possibly Mike Gill) about the deep level - it does still go quite a way apparently, but Yorkshire Water ain't keen on people visiting!

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Posted: 16/03/2019 10:03:23
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Photo of it from 2011. A few of the levels have the Yorkshire Water signs, possibly they were used for water abstraction?

Maybe the dam at the mouth of the Duke's Level is a legacy of that. The water doesn't always top the grill.




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Posted: 17/03/2019 13:22:34
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AR wrote:

I've a recollection of having a chat with someone (possibly Mike Gill) about the deep level - it does still go quite a way apparently, but Yorkshire Water ain't keen on people visiting!


I went in there about 30 years ago. Water levels started about waist deep, and gradually decreased. After about 6-800 metres there was a junction. To the left went towards Yarnbury, and finished in a flooded shaft, and to the right went towards Cupola Corner but slumping had made the way on dodgy to say the least. Our trip caused the beck to turn brown for the next 24 hours!

Yorkshire Water have now damned up the entrance, and if one could get in, one would at the very least be swimming for a considerable distance.
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Posted: 17/03/2019 21:28:36
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Hi all
I wonder if Yorkshire water are still using it as a water supply? as one evening a few years ago, I observed a local farmer empty a slurry tanker down one of the shafts, having filled the slurry tanker from a local septic tank (ie human waste)
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Posted: 17/03/2019 21:44:16
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allanr wrote:

Hi all
I wonder if Yorkshire water are still using it as a water supply? as one evening a few years ago, I observed a local farmer empty a slurry tanker down one of the shafts, having filled the slurry tanker from a local septic tank (ie human waste)

No - Hebden has been on the mains for many years now, fed from Embsay Reservoir. Yorkshire Water decided in their wisdom that there was too much lead in the supply from the Duke's Level and Langshaw Level on the other side of the beck. The locals never noticed...
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Posted: 17/03/2019 22:15:41
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If they have stopped abstracting due to lead levels, does that mean that there is the possibility of access being restored? IP: 79.65.208.49
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Posted: 17/03/2019 22:24:16
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allanr wrote:

If they have stopped abstracting due to lead levels, does that mean that there is the possibility of access being restored?

Unlikely. I believe that YW own the mineral rights up there, and they gated all the levels after a shaft collapsed, killing some stock and a dog. Moreover, Duke's Level is now damned up with a substantial wall, and I suspect that there is now minimal air space, even if one could get in.
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Posted: 18/03/2019 09:16:39
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Hmnn, thanks for answering this question, I've wondered about it ever since! Back in '81, the dam was there but drain pipes at the foot were allowing the water to escape. There were concrete flags on top of the dam wall, bridging the gap between the dam and the portal. These could be moved aside to allow one to drop in and duck under the apparently walled-up portal - it was just the top bit of the arch that was walled. Water was probably welly depth, but I only had my walking boots and it was a misty, wet, sleety March day - not the best for walking around the moor with wet feet!
After Cornwall, the Grassington mines were probably the first mining field that captured my imagination. I used to make my own plans using available data from lots of sources, plotting water courses, rope runs, water wheels and shafts. It was apparent to me even then, that there were errors in some of the data.

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Posted: 18/03/2019 21:02:15
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As far as I was aware, the Grassington mineral rights were still in the hands of the Chatsworth trustees. However, I don't think Hebden liberty was ever in the possession of the Dukes of Devonshire so maybe that's what Yorkshire Water have?

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