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Posted: 10/07/2012 13:27:13
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Saw these go for £26 each on eBay listed as "Nenthead Coal Mining Works" (ahem)

The first is clearly the VM Smelt Mill in the middle of town.


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But what about this one ?
What are we looking at here ?


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Posted: 10/07/2012 13:39:35
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christwigg wrote:

Saw these go for £26 each on eBay listed as "Nenthead Coal Mining Works" (ahem)

But what about this one ?
What are we looking at here ?


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Fairly lightweight (& unused) coke ovens?

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Posted: 10/07/2012 14:25:59
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christwigg wrote:

Saw these go for £26 each on eBay listed as "Nenthead Coal Mining Works" (ahem)



There was a small coal mine in Nent, behind the woods to the east of the hush.
Nothing to be seen of it now really
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Posted: 10/07/2012 15:25:53
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RJV wrote:

christwigg wrote:

Saw these go for £26 each on eBay listed as "Nenthead Coal Mining Works" (ahem)

But what about this one ?
What are we looking at here ?


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Fairly lightweight (& unused) coke ovens?


The raised cabin seems to be on rails, could it be the coke ovens under construction? (centre left on first pic)
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Posted: 10/07/2012 19:19:22
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Hi Chris,
Can we be sure the two photos were actually linked or did the seller just lump them together?
There were lots of presumed coal-workings shown on my copy of the Coalcleugh plan as you might expect.
Wallace in his notes on the discovery of Longcleugh second sun vein also suggests workings in area towards the heads of the Smallcleugh/ Longcleugh burns.
So small coal workings were worked in the Nent area, and coal can be seen on the side of the Smallcleugh horse level, from memory in the area past Proud's sump.
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Posted: 10/07/2012 19:33:58
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Just going from what the seller wrote on two listings.

No guarantees at all its even Nenthead to be honest.

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Posted: 10/07/2012 19:49:22
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Hi Chris,
Whilst I have seen a lot of Nenthead photos around this time I have seen anything like the second one which is why I have doubts about it being at Nenthead.
The first almost certainly was taken after the finishing of the new Krupps gravity mill when V.M. took over.
This seems to have been the inspiration for the 'large' number of photos around this time.
I guess all concerned thought it was the dawning of a new era, which off course it was for the next 20 years or so.
Nenthead mining only coming to an end when the metal wartime subsidy was removed after the first world war.
I am excluding Haggs and Rotherhope Fell mines from this analysis.
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Posted: 10/07/2012 19:53:21
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Indeed, its quite possible someone has paid £26 for a photo that's not even Nenthead, hence the question. IP: 82.5.179.238
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Posted: 10/07/2012 20:39:12
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I dont think for one minute its Nenthead, and indeed a good question is "What is it"?

Whatever it is, its mounted on rails. However, the protruding arm in the forground would slice off the post carrying cables when moving to the left.
Some kind of processing plant, but what?

My intuition tells me that its a grading plant possibly to do with coal mining, This is just an 'intuitive guess'.

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Posted: 10/07/2012 21:25:48
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The first photo is classic Nenthead, we can all see features that are instantly recognisable.
The second does look like a coking plant. I don't know much about them but they do have multiple cells that are charged, heated and then purged into a travelling hopper arrangement similar to the photo.
There was never anything like that at Nent to my knowledge.
Not really the right sort of coal in that area?

Lots of vaguely similar equipment in Staffordshire.

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Posted: 10/07/2012 21:55:18
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From my memories of working on a coking plant at British steel at Scunthorpe ...the second picture does indeed look like a early coking plant.

The rows of tall narrow doors are the give away ...and the "shed" or it's modern equivalent ("pusher" in more modern parlance)traverse the rails lifting off the doors in turn and the "arm" mentioned by Roy pushing the coke out of the far side towards the awaiting loco and train for transport under the "drenching tower" where the hot coke is quenched .

IF you watch this clip you "may" be able o spot some of the features ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Jnwgt-a5g

With the coal over at Ayle near to Alston would there have been any local coking plants ??? (i know that Ayle was mainly anthracite ....was that any use for the production of coke ??? )

Apologies if i am talking out of my backside as this is a bit outside my usual area of limited knowledge Surrender
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