Mine exploration, photographs and mining history for mine explorers, industrial archaeologists, researchers and historians aditnow.co.uk

AditNow YouTube mine exploration videos AditNow Facebook Group
Search for mines by country, zone and mineral type: Country:


OS Landranger sheet:
Mineral/product:

Only mines with content
Quick a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Search mines by name: (Tip: do not include the words mine or quarry, just search on the name e.g. 'cwmorthin')
'Sounds like search' (useful if you are not quite sure how to spell the mine name)
Quick a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Search photographs by keyword: (Tip: narrow down your search by entering more than one word and selecting all words or exact)
Search for any word
Search for all words
Exact search
Search the forum by keyword: (Tip: narrow down your search by entering more than one word and selecting all words or exact)
Search for any word
Search for all words
Exact search

Mine Exploration Forum

Author Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
SimonRL

Avatar of SimonRL

Joined: 27/11/2005
Location: North Wales

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 14:02:32
Reply |  Quote
As the subject line Smile PVC or canvas?

--

Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away.
IP: 95.147.254.34
RJV

Avatar of RJV

Joined: 16/03/2008
Location: Cleveland

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 14:07:22
Reply |  Quote
Canvas personally as it feels like it should have a greater durability but bought mine on basis of whichever were the cheapest and will probably do so again.



--

Rich
IP: 82.5.181.65 Edited: 27/06/2011 14:08:25 by RJV
RichardLevett

Avatar of RichardLevett

Joined: 20/06/2009
Location: Teesdale

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 14:17:14
Reply |  Quote
Whatever happened to using old hose pipe? IP: 198.28.92.5
SimonRL

Avatar of SimonRL

Joined: 27/11/2005
Location: North Wales

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 14:19:09
Reply |  Quote
RichardLevett wrote:

Whatever happened to using old hose pipe?


And bags, conveyor belts and bits of carpet Wink I think they all have their place!

--

Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away.
IP: 95.147.254.34
davel

Avatar of davel

Joined: 24/07/2007
Location: Gwynedd

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 14:34:00
Reply |  Quote
From a theoretical point of view Smartass , I would guess that the best rope protector would be one that presents the least friction to the rope. The protector does not just protect the rope from being cut into at a single point by a sharp edge, but prevents the rope rubbing on the edge as the section above the edge stretches and relaxes, particularly when someone is climbing the rope. So, from this aspect, a PVC protector might be best.

However, in practice, I'm not sure if the material used makes much difference. Confused

(Obviously, if a deviation or rebelay can be arranged, that's a much better solution.)

Dave (ducking and preparing to be shot down in flames)
IP: 195.137.87.110
SimonRL

Avatar of SimonRL

Joined: 27/11/2005
Location: North Wales

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 14:35:43
Reply |  Quote
I wonder has any research been done into it? Along similar lines to DMM's falls on dyneema slings video?

--

Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away.
IP: 95.147.254.34
RJV

Avatar of RJV

Joined: 16/03/2008
Location: Cleveland

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 14:44:41
Reply |  Quote
Would agree with Dave by and large but would add that only (usually) tend to use them at the head of pitches etc so the amount of movement/stretch on the rope should be fairly minor.

--

Rich
IP: 82.145.211.43
JonK

Joined: 24/01/2008
Location: Yorkshire

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 19:27:57
Reply |  Quote
Canvas definitely, the thicker the better. The Lyon ones are expensive but best long term value.

Jon
IP: 81.132.220.70
Vanoord

Avatar of Vanoord

Joined: 28/11/2005
Location: North Wales

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 19:41:36
Reply |  Quote
JonK wrote:

Canvas definitely, the thicker the better. The Lyon ones are expensive but best long term value.

Jon


£12 for the 0.5m and £17.50 for the 1m ones according to my catalogue.

I never knew they did them, although they are tucked away a bit.

I learn something new every day Smile

--

Filling space until a new signature comes along...
IP: 81.134.113.178 Edited: 27/06/2011 19:42:20 by Vanoord
Edd

Avatar of Edd

Joined: 02/07/2008
Location: Alderley Edge

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 23:21:30
Reply |  Quote
The caving supplies canvas ones work very well although on Slate most types wont last long. IP: 86.26.91.158
SimonRL

Avatar of SimonRL

Joined: 27/11/2005
Location: North Wales

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 23:29:17
Reply |  Quote
Thanks for the feedback everybody Thumbs Up Ordered some canvas ones from Inglesport in the end.

edd wrote:

The caving supplies canvas ones work very well although on Slate most types wont last long.


You're not wrong. Those red canvas ones on the CRTT - if you remember them - were mine. They looked like tea bags towards the end.

--

Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away.
IP: 95.147.254.34
Edd

Avatar of Edd

Joined: 02/07/2008
Location: Alderley Edge

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 27/06/2011 23:47:20
Reply |  Quote
I thought they were tea bags Laugh no wonder my brew tasted funny Blush IP: 86.26.91.158
derrickhand

Avatar of derrickhand

Joined: 16/06/2011

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 28/06/2011 07:34:32
Reply |  Quote
another vote for old hose - 3/4" air bag is better, though...

--

plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose
IP: 212.33.146.218
Roy Morton

Avatar of Roy Morton

Joined: 09/10/2007
Location: Redruth Cornwall

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 29/06/2011 02:27:33
Reply |  Quote
As an update to the good old hosepipe I have used overhead cable protector sheath.
Its plastic, durable as hell (you could safely belay to a razor wired post with it) can be cut into covenient lengths, and has a pretty industrial yellow colour so you dont leave it in the grass when you're packing the gear away. Smile
Good for pitch heads/belays, Thumb Up crap for anything down-hole, rebelays and the like. Thumb Down
Most times a friendly chat and the offer of a drink can persuade an electricity board contractor to leave a 10 foot lenght Wink

--

'Bid me discourse, I will enchant thine ear'
IP: 86.145.172.94
SimonRL

Avatar of SimonRL

Joined: 27/11/2005
Location: North Wales

View Profile
View Posts
View Personal Album
View Personal Files
View all Photos
Send Private Message
Rope protectors - canvas or PVC
Posted: 29/06/2011 10:44:59
Reply |  Quote
Arrived today, Lyon sport canvas ones - they're incredibly tough. Ta for the advice Thumbs Up

--

Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away.
IP: 95.147.254.20
Bookmark with Del.icio.us Digg This! Post to Reddit Share on Facebook Post to StumbleUpon Post to Kaboodle Bookmark with Yahoo Bookmark with Google
Contact?

If you have any questions at all about mine exploration or the AditNow web site please get in touch:

info@aditnow.co.uk
Problems?

Spotted any problems with the web site, or any inaccuracies or errors in the information on here? Please let us know:

info@aditnow.co.uk
Moore Books: Specialist Books I.A. Recordings: Mining and Industrial History DVDs Explore a Disused Welsh Slate Mine Romic-Ace Industrial Locomotive Sales
Disclaimer: Mine exploring can be quite dangerous, but then again it can be alright, it all depends on the weather. Please read the proper disclaimer.
© 2005 to 2010 AditNow.co.uk
Top of Page