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davel Joined: 24/07/2007 Location: Gwynedd View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 18/12/2010 12:27:11 Reply | Quote While we're comparing cameras ... has anybody an opinion on Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12? Dave IP: 195.137.87.110 |
RJV Joined: 16/03/2008 Location: Cleveland View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 18/12/2010 12:36:00 Reply | Quote Having owned a P6000 I'd probably take it for granted that the P7000 is a great camera however I'd want to have a very good look at one first as the only falling down point with the P6000 was a Mickey Mouse lens assembly which failed as soon as it got a bit of grit in it. -- Rich IP: 82.4.12.54 |
toadstone Joined: 10/09/2007 Location: Father's Dwelling, Big Low View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 18/12/2010 21:29:27 Reply | Quote RJV wrote: Having owned a P6000 I'd probably take it for granted that the P7000 is a great camera however I'd want to have a very good look at one first as the only falling down point with the P6000 was a Mickey Mouse lens assembly which failed as soon as it got a bit of grit in it. A little unfair methinks. None of these cameras are really designed to be subjected conditions found underground in mines. You can however get round the problem quite successfully. Most of these advanced Point & Shoot cameras (particularly Canon & Nikon) have the ability to use add on lenses. This requires an adaptor tube and rather than using the lens on the end just replace it with a daylight/UV filter. The camera's lens assembly can then extend and close without worrying about grit and to a certain extent water. I regularly fly these cameras up to 500 feet below kites and in damp windy conditions the pressure on the lens assembly can allow condensation to occur inside the lens assembly. By using the extension tube and filter it eliminates the problem. Also has the added bonus of protecting the lens on heavy/crash landings.  Peter. IP: 81.135.86.143 |
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davel Joined: 24/07/2007 Location: Gwynedd View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 18/12/2010 22:06:58 Reply | Quote Perhaps I should have said that I'm not looking for a camera specifically for underground use - I'm looking for a good general purpose camera, smaller than a DSLR and with a viewfinder. Dave IP: 195.137.87.110 |
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RJV Joined: 16/03/2008 Location: Cleveland View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 18/12/2010 22:32:09 Reply | Quote The comment regarding the Nikon is by no means unfair. The P7000 appears to have a very similar lens construction to the P6000 and a Google search for 'P6000 Lens Errors' will reveal that the flimsy construction causes problems for all users which is a shame really as the body is bombproof. Don't doubt that it will be a great camera to use though. -- Rich IP: 82.4.12.54 |
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Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 19/12/2010 07:31:46 Reply | Quote I have a G10 and that is a great little camera, but will only do a 15 second exposure which is a bit of a pain for underground pictures. IP: 82.24.233.98 |
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toadstone Joined: 10/09/2007 Location: Father's Dwelling, Big Low View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 19/12/2010 10:33:42 Reply | Quote ogof wrote: I have a G10 and that is a great little camera, but will only do a 15 second exposure which is a bit of a pain for underground pictures. It's a pity you have the G10 and not one of the other Canon Gs as they will support CHDK (Canon Hacking Development Kit). This allows you to override many of the set parameters such as the exposure time but even then only up to 64 secs I think it is. The CHDK Wiki can be found here: [link] The latest build for all supported Canon camera variants can be found here:[link] It allows you to other things too which may or may not be helpful underground. This is an example of the motion detection feature: [link] and here is one of my better examples of time lapse:[link] Peter. IP: 81.135.86.143 |
SimonRL Joined: 27/11/2005 Location: North Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 19/12/2010 19:54:43 Reply | Quote I can second Rich's comments on the P6000. It's a cracking camera, it takes great photographs (a bit over processed looking at times IMO), the lens is nice and sharp (as you'd expect from Nikon) and the construction of the camera itself is great. But he's not exagerating about the lens. It really is very fragile and seems quite at odds with the rest of the camera construction. The P7000 looks tougher, but I don't know whether they've beefed up the lens at all. It is quite a bulky camera for a compact. All that said it didn't do well in a DPReview against the Canon S95 and Lumix LX5 [link] The Canon G11 seems to score well in reviews, although I've not seen a detailed review of the G12. I've have considered either of these when instead of the Lumix I bought (which fails your requirement for an optical viewfinder which admittedly is a pain) but I don't ever want another underground camera with a retractable lens. -- indicative of the type of individual found at the periphery of a fringe activity IP: 95.148.102.104 Edited: 19/12/2010 20:04:01 by SimonRL |
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davel Joined: 24/07/2007 Location: Gwynedd View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 19/12/2010 21:11:09 Reply | Quote simonrl wrote: ... I don't ever want another underground camera with a retractable lens. As mentioned previously, I don't want to use it underground - there's far too many people on this forum taking really excellent photos for me to want to compete. Anyway ... it's all a bit academic now - I've ordered a G12. I handled one some time back and it it seemed very nice and it's got generally good reviews. Ask me in a few months time if I made the right choice. Whatever, I'm sure it's going to be better than my nine-year-old 3 Mpx P&S. Dave IP: 195.137.87.110 |
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Nikon P7000 vs Canon G12
Posted: 19/12/2010 22:00:02 Reply | Quote davel wrote: As mentioned previously, I don't want to use it underground - there's far too many people on this forum taking really excellent photos for me to want to compete. Fair point, but while I was describing the issue in the context of underground use, I had the slidy bit that covers the lens on my P6000 jam because of a grain of sand. And from that point I tended to have to prod it to get it to open fully! davel wrote: Anyway ... it's all a bit academic now - I've ordered a G12. I handled one some time back and it it seemed very nice and it's got generally good reviews. The G12 looks an excellent camera, the G9, G10 and G11 always had excellent reviews. davel wrote: Whatever, I'm sure it's going to be better than my nine-year-old 3 Mpx P&S. Get the old one underground and get some photos of the less photographed mines of the area  -- indicative of the type of individual found at the periphery of a fringe activity IP: 95.148.103.89 Edited: 19/12/2010 22:11:19 by SimonRL |
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