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SimonRL Joined: 27/11/2005 Location: North Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 22/11/2010 22:57:07 Reply | Quote Can anybody tell me where I can get one of those small and very handy folding metal shovels from? -- indicative of the type of individual found at the periphery of a fringe activity IP: 95.148.13.235 |
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rikj Joined: 27/12/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 22/11/2010 23:08:05 Reply | Quote Most ex-army sites should have them. [link] One example. -- |
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NewStuff Joined: 26/07/2010 Location: NE Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 22/11/2010 23:10:11 Reply | Quote Maplins have em on Promotion at the moment. Fiver. http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=217527 -- In your mines, Taking your pictures... IP: 86.143.17.65 |
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SimonRL Joined: 27/11/2005 Location: North Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 22/11/2010 23:24:12 Reply | Quote Thanks chaps! -- indicative of the type of individual found at the periphery of a fringe activity IP: 95.148.13.235 |
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Graigfawr Joined: 04/11/2009 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 22/11/2010 23:48:08 Reply | Quote The American style folding shovels such as the one illustrated on the link in the previous reply on this thread are compact but cheaper ones strip the thread of the locking ring if they are worked hard. The Second World War vintage British Army pattern is less convenient to carry but is much more robust and well-nigh impossible to break - my two have stood up to over thirty years of use. The brisih pattern has a pick one side and a shovel blade at right angles to the handle at the other end - great for a scraping action in tight digs. If the dig is larger than a crawl then I'd use a full size pick and shovel, possibly with cut down handles depending on the space in the dig. Anyone know if the old British pattern is still available? IP: 92.26.68.77 |
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Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 00:45:33 Reply | Quote Graigfawr wrote: Anyone know if the old British pattern is still available? Yep. [link] Ignore the price in the link, they can be picked up for next to nothing. You can still get the one that takes the Mk 4 (pig sticker) bayonet on the handle. And they certainly do last well. IP: 86.31.92.42 Edited: 23/11/2010 00:56:26 by Morlock |
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droid Joined: 31/10/2010 Location: Tamworth View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 04:15:07 Reply | Quote Try a mini-shovel from Silverline tools. Less than a metre long and pretty tough. IP: 81.108.217.215 |
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hcd563 Joined: 29/10/2007 Location: Gwynedd, Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 14:01:25 Reply | Quote Try googleing Entrenching Tool, all sorts of stuff available. Martin IP: 82.27.23.84 |
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steve turbo Joined: 29/08/2009 Location: im every where in north wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 15:47:20 Reply | Quote highly recomend silverline small shovel , thats what we used at fron boeth.. |
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royfellows Joined: 13/06/2007 Location: Great Wyrley near Walsall View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 16:04:38 Reply | Quote I would advise against any of all metal types as inevitably the folding handle etc will be of thinner steel and very prone to corrosion in mines where the PH is low, which is any mine that is ochreous. I try to get hold of the wooden handle type with the folding blade; they are cheap enough and last. If your digging is a crawl, a sturdy garden trowel can be just the thing. I must have moved tonnes with one of these. I try to avoid this type of dig now and attempt to keep to a reasonable walking height. The problem with crawls is that if you come upon a boulder you are finished, its also murder to work in. Talking of digging, bolt a steel plate to the bottom of a 5 gallon plastic container and cut out the other side. Nice little skip for dragging out the muck. To use a wheelbarrow you would need a lot of room and just increase the amount of work. -- ''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change IP: 89.240.183.247 Edited: 23/11/2010 16:05:19 by royfellows |
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Tamarmole Joined: 20/05/2009 Location: Tamar Valley View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 17:47:26 Reply | Quote You can't beat the ex german issue entrnhing tools: wooden handle, pivoting steel blade and a small folding pick on the back - absolutely fab. IP: 86.155.93.95 |
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christwigg Joined: 20/02/2008 Location: Cleveland View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 18:09:24 Reply | Quote The cheapest ones on eBay are garbage. First thing you try to give anything a bit of welly the metal washer on the neck bends out of shape and give you a floppy spade. IP: 82.5.179.238 |
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ICLOK Joined: 19/02/2008 Location: Ripley, Derbyshire up North. View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 23/11/2010 19:13:11 Reply | Quote My two piece, timber handled, drop forged WW2 entrenching tool is the biz but hard to get now. I use these for metal detecting digging tools and the small steel folding jobs are generally sh*te. -- We must perform a Quirkafleeg IP: 78.149.104.151 |
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minerat Joined: 15/01/2008 Location: cheshire View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 24/11/2010 20:46:08 Reply | Quote the U.S.Army trenching too with folding pick and shovel, wooden handle are o.k. Ive had one for 35 years its the best thing I ever bought, you have to keep greese on the threads tho, i put a 6" piece of cycle innertube over the thread parts keeps out gritty bits. I think you can still get from american surplus. the cheaper ones with round wooden handles tend to spin a bit when bartled up with clay. I have the one in the link the english army edition if anyone wants it, might have two. -- be afraid.....very afraid !!!! IP: 86.138.163.240 |
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SimonRL Joined: 27/11/2005 Location: North Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 24/11/2010 21:24:52 Reply | Quote I'm spoilt for choice now! -- indicative of the type of individual found at the periphery of a fringe activity IP: 95.148.101.14 |
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Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 01/06/2011 19:26:16 Reply | Quote Found link on another UG site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o IP: 86.29.121.89 |
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lab rat Joined: 21/01/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 01/06/2011 19:43:30 Reply | Quote Cotswold Royal oak should sell them When do you need it by Simon?? |
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John Lawson Joined: 09/12/2010 Location: Castle Douglas Dumfries & Galloway View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 01/06/2011 21:08:44 Reply | Quote Personally tried lots of shovels including both British & American genuine entrenchers, all have problems,however without a shovel you cannot explore partially blocked entrances, The one I use now is sold by Screwfix and is called a Micro shovel. It has pointed end and weighs about a Kilo. Consequently you can carry it for miles(literally), without any effort. It retails at £12.99 and before it's renaming was described as a posting shovel. IP: 92.18.12.84 |
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SimonRL Joined: 27/11/2005 Location: North Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 01/06/2011 21:52:19 Reply | Quote John Lawson wrote: Personally tried lots of shovels including both British & American genuine entrenchers, all have problems,however without a shovel you cannot explore partially blocked entrances, The one I use now is sold by Screwfix and is called a Micro shovel. It has pointed end and weighs about a Kilo. Consequently you can carry it for miles(literally), without any effort. It retails at £12.99 and before it's renaming was described as a posting shovel. Is this the one? [link] -- Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away. IP: 86.171.208.129 Edited: 01/06/2011 21:53:14 by SimonRL |
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SimonRL Joined: 27/11/2005 Location: North Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 01/06/2011 21:54:07 Reply | Quote minerat wrote: the U.S.Army trenching too with folding pick and shovel, wooden handle are o.k. Ive had one for 35 years its the best thing I ever bought, you have to keep greese on the threads tho, i put a 6" piece of cycle innertube over the thread parts keeps out gritty bits. I think you can still get from american surplus. the cheaper ones with round wooden handles tend to spin a bit when bartled up with clay. I have the one in the link the english army edition if anyone wants it, might have two. Minerat, really sorry I forgot all about this... PM sent! -- Remember there is nothing to be gained by trying to get away. IP: 86.171.208.129 |