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Aditaddict Joined: 27/08/2010 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 12:04:50 Reply | Quote I am looking to buy a couple of safety lamps for gas testing bad air etc there seems to be hundreds of replicas mainly emanating from E Thomas Williams in Wales IYHO which would be the best lamp to buy that is a guaranteed original underground fully functional working lamp ? I am looking at Eccles lamps , but even some of these look like ornaments any advise welcome Thanks Andy IP: 81.109.225.134 |
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miner1985 Joined: 17/11/2007 Location: South Wales View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 13:12:14 Reply | Quote I use an Eccles GR6S. IP: 86.157.126.138 |
inbye Joined: 06/07/2008 Location: Huddersfield View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 14:06:01 Reply | Quote Yes you would be best off with a GR6S, or even a type 6. This was the earlier & almost identical model, just didn't posses the "Garforth" testing port. Both are re-lighter's, so ideal for your needs. A word of warning, just because it says Type 6 or GR6S on the nameplate, doesn't mean that's what it is. Quite a few out there have been built up from odd bits. If you see one on ebay, let me know & I'll give it the once over (or someone on the forum will) Just to be pedantic, they aren't *Eccles*  Eccles is the district of Manchester, where they were made...Good luck with it.edited cos I can't spell... -- Regards, John... 'Folk from Huddersfield think Sex is what coal gets delivered in...' IP: 86.29.250.70 Edited: 27/08/2012 14:08:01 by inbye |
Moorebooks Joined: 28/11/2007 Location: Newport, Shropshire View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 15:14:26 Reply | Quote what about protectors? aren't they still made ? Mike IP: 82.37.139.44 |
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inbye Joined: 06/07/2008 Location: Huddersfield View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 15:23:50 Reply | Quote Moorebooks wrote: what about protectors? aren't they still made ? Mike Mike, protectors are the lamps the OP referred to as "Eccles". The Protector Lamp & Lighting Co, Makers, Eccles. The confusion arises due to the "Makers" appearing just above the "Eccles" on the nameplate design... -- Regards, John... 'Folk from Huddersfield think Sex is what coal gets delivered in...' IP: 86.29.250.70 |
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Aditaddict Joined: 27/08/2010 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 16:13:00 Reply | Quote Thanks for the replies and info Proctors are still in production and are the ones supplied to light the Olympic torches The only problem is they cost £360 new , that is why i'm looking at used lamps http://protectorlamp.com/ IP: 81.109.225.134 |
rufenig Joined: 18/03/2008 Location: Shropshire Hills View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 16:59:46 Reply | Quote For example on the auction site This one is good to have (if complete) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mining-miners-pit-lamp-eccles-type-6-b-28-/261088777320?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item3cca1a9468 Steer away from the SL lamps as they are very difficult to light This is ok but expensive http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OFFICALS-ECCLES-PROTECTOR-GR6S-MINING-MINERS-LAMP-/320970273834?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item4abb51b42a This might be a sleeper http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/genuine-eccles-deputies-miners-lamp-/120975435817?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item1c2ab2a829 Enough to be a guide 
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inbye Joined: 06/07/2008 Location: Huddersfield View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 17:21:56 Reply | Quote rufenig wrote: For example on the auction site This one is good to have (if complete) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mining-miners-pit-lamp-eccles-type-6-b-28-/261088777320?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item3cca1a9468 Steer away from the SL lamps as they are very difficult to light This is ok but expensive http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OFFICALS-ECCLES-PROTECTOR-GR6S-MINING-MINERS-LAMP-/320970273834?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item4abb51b42a This might be a sleeper http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/genuine-eccles-deputies-miners-lamp-/120975435817?pt=UK_Collectables_Memorabila_RL&hash=item1c2ab2a829 Enough to be a guide The first one would be fine. OK it's aimed at the tourist market but it's a proper safety lamp, produced on the same tooling as the "permitted" lamps. An advantage is it will be virtually brand new inside, might never have been lit. Also, you won't need to mess around with the magnetic lock, as this one is a lead rivet type. I'd go for this or one like it... -- Regards, John... 'Folk from Huddersfield think Sex is what coal gets delivered in...' IP: 86.29.250.70 |
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Moorebooks Joined: 28/11/2007 Location: Newport, Shropshire View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 20:05:14 Reply | Quote Aditaddict wrote: Thanks for the replies and info Proctors are still in production and are the ones supplied to light the Olympic torches The only problem is they cost £360 new , that is why i'm looking at used lamps http://protectorlamp.com/ Heck I only paid £75 for mine mind you it was almost 20 years ago 
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Isabel Gott Joined: 01/06/2010 Location: Huddersfield View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
Miners safety lamp. Which ?
Posted: 27/08/2012 20:12:42 Reply | Quote You have been done, I paid £20 for a 6RS recently. People from Lepton build Barges on the top of hills so the bottom does not get wet. -- RL |
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Posted: 27/08/2012 21:27:12 Reply | Quote Moorebooks wrote: Aditaddict wrote: Thanks for the replies and info Proctors are still in production and are the ones supplied to light the Olympic torches The only problem is they cost £360 new , that is why i'm looking at used lamps http://protectorlamp.com/ Heck I only paid £75 for mine mind you it was almost 20 years ago Yes they are now £300 +VAT and carriage and their last price list was 2008 LoL
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Posted: 27/08/2012 22:15:16 Reply | Quote I've just listed an Ackroyd and Best on EBay, probably not much use to you though as its a blue glass one. IP: 90.219.230.94 |
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Posted: 13/09/2012 21:52:44 Reply | Quote Thanks again for the help and info in the last two weeks i have bought two Protector (not proctor) Type 6 lamps both seem to be brand new and are in imaculate condition after a quick clean they look fantastic They both had flints in the strikers which seemed to have swelled up and jammed s, so i removed them , fitted new flints and both lamps fire up I am using meths at the mo but was wondering what you guys use in yours ? i have searched the net and know the correct fuel is colazlene which is no longer available also heard solvent 40 solvent 20 or naptha , ronson / zippo lighter fuel etc once again well made up my two lamps are stunning well made pieces of British mining history and now i just want to fill my house with the buggers ! THANKS AGAIN ANDY IP: 81.109.225.134 |
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inbye Joined: 06/07/2008 Location: Huddersfield View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 15/09/2012 18:13:59 Reply | Quote Ligthter fluid is the stuff to use, probably the closest to the original Colza oil... P.S. don't try filling your house with 'em, I tried that over 40 yrs ago, an' it's still not full  (click image to open full size image in new window) -- Regards, John... 'Folk from Huddersfield think Sex is what coal gets delivered in...' IP: 86.9.237.88 Edited: 15/09/2012 18:33:16 by inbye |
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Posted: 16/09/2012 08:56:22 Reply | Quote Thanks ! i have been toying with the idea of collecting one of each model in the Protector / Eccles range your picture suggests there may be more than i thought LoL IP: 81.109.225.134 |
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inbye Joined: 06/07/2008 Location: Huddersfield View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 16/09/2012 10:48:24 Reply | Quote Yes, that particular one took 30yrs to come along. It was a prototype developed in 1959 & only issued to a limited number of pits, on a trial basis. Don't let that put you off tho'...sounds like you've got the bug  -- Regards, John... 'Folk from Huddersfield think Sex is what coal gets delivered in...' IP: 86.9.237.88 |
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Posted: 17/09/2012 09:06:26 Reply | Quote Yes i think i have LoL I just love the quality of the work that has gone into these lamps , only fault i can see is they are difficult to fill up, or is that me ? IP: 81.109.225.134 |
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inbye Joined: 06/07/2008 Location: Huddersfield View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message |
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Posted: 17/09/2012 18:48:22 Reply | Quote No, not you. You just need to know that the vessels are packed with sponge, so the lamp won't spill if it's knocked over. When done in the lamproom the job would be done quickly & the spillage (overflow) caught for re-use. Use something like a syringe or just the nozzle on the lighter fluid tin & stop when fluid remains in the bottom of the lock filler. If you squint down the lock there will be two holes, once the fuel is about halfway up the lower one, this will be enough. The excess fuel will then soak into the sponges...hope this helps... -- Regards, John... 'Folk from Huddersfield think Sex is what coal gets delivered in...' IP: 86.9.237.88 |
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Posted: 18/09/2012 09:25:46 Reply | Quote Yes thanks for that , my spillage went into kitchen roll , which i then threw outside (didn't want to chance the waste bin ) bye the way , love the pic of "part of your collection"seems i have a long way to go LoL IP: 81.109.225.134 |
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