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| Author | Message |
| Topic: Thermal water - Matlock Bath | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 20/05/2013 09:18:39 Subject: Thermal water - Matlock Bath The mine that you refer to as Bat Cave is in fact Hagg Mine by the Lovers Walks riverside footpath, north of the Willersley Castle boundary wall. This was a marvellous level, very spectacular and it s |
| Topic: Should we worry yet? | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 20/05/2013 09:12:46 Subject: Should we worry yet? The article “Jack Beck and Masson Hill” by Nevil Gregory (Peak District Mines Historical Society Bull. 14 No. 2, 1999, pp59-63), gives an excellent summary of the planning problems with Laporte during |
| Topic: Thermal water - Matlock Bath | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 17/05/2013 09:32:35 Subject: Thermal water - Matlock Bath Thank you for your suggestion about self-publishing. I shall first see if anyone wants to publish it. In recent months, I have been busy walking the mining titles to check over the latest historical i |
| Topic: Masson Hill surveys. | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 19/02/2013 09:31:02 Subject: Masson Hill surveys. I have not got round to updating our Masson survey to include the present line of the quarry face. In recent months, I have been using my bus pass to trundle over to the Matlock area to check out the |
| Topic: Locating an individual miner | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Genealogy
Posted: 11/12/2012 09:57:48
Subject: Locating an individual miner
There is a lot of chatter about Edward Wones at Shelve on genealogical websites such as http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=626436.msg4748110;topicseen http://www.cumpston. |
| Topic: earth mover made at Bilston, Staffs | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Events Posted: 04/09/2012 09:06:09 Subject: earth mover made at Bilston, Staffs Thank you all for sorting it out. I had just googled the phrases given on the manufacturer's plate and this yielded no hits. |
| Topic: earth mover made at Bilston, Staffs | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Events Posted: 03/09/2012 09:10:43 Subject: earth mover made at Bilston, Staffs In a wood near Ilkeston in Derbyshire, there is a large earthmover and trailer that were deposited there over 20 years ago, no doubt when local coal opencasting work ceased. I remember seeing similar |
| Topic: Unknown mine - SK292573 | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 29/08/2012 16:18:03 Subject: Unknown mine - SK292573 I am more likely to look into grant funding. After 45 years of research, surveying 100,000 feet of passages, etc., I have about had enough of the project. Thanks for your comments, but we could return |
| Topic: Unknown mine - SK292573 | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 28/08/2012 14:26:31 Subject: Unknown mine - SK292573 The vein was recorded in 1810 as Blue John Mine - it is visible at the end of the workings: a 2 foot width of blue fluorspar, red clay, and barite. It differs from the real Blue John found at Castleto |
| Topic: Thermal water - Matlock Bath | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 02/08/2012 09:22:15
Subject: Thermal water - Matlock Bath
The warmest is 20'C, the coolest is that issuing from the sough at Long Tor at about 13'C, probably due to dilution with meteoric waters and a slow journey through collapses in the sough. From ab |
| Topic: Help please - unknown mine NE of Nickalum | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 27/07/2012 09:17:59
Subject: Help please - unknown mine NE of Nickalum
This is not in my area of expertise but so far as I know the mine you are interested in may well be Sandy Holes Mine. The Hollingworth Mine marked on your map was later known as Hope Mine and th |
| Topic: Thermal water - Matlock Bath | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 23/07/2012 16:03:34
Subject: Thermal water - Matlock Bath
Sorry for the delay in replying - I have been offline for a while because I rely on the local library for internet access. Most of the petrifying wells just used off-shoots of the main thermal sp |
| Topic: Thermal water - Matlock Bath | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 21/07/2012 09:36:36 Subject: Thermal water - Matlock Bath Opposite the Pavilion on the east bank of the river is the tail of a sough on Jackdaw Vein in the riverbank. The late Colin Oakman recorded it in 1979 as ‘a small drain 1 ft. 6 ins. wide and 1 ft. wid |
| Topic: Long tor survey | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 18/06/2012 09:32:21 Subject: Long tor survey I cannot locate the thermal spring at the sough tail relative to the lamppost but it is almost level with the middle of the old buildings of the mineral water factory that stood on the other side of t |
| Topic: Long tor survey | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 15/06/2012 09:22:09 Subject: Long tor survey The publication of my book depends on the PDMHS and the editor. I have been told it will make a loss, even if I do not take any royalties. 2014 has been suggested as a likely date but it largely depen |
| Topic: Long tor survey | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 14/06/2012 09:11:26 Subject: Long tor survey The coffin level was a sough on Blackstone Shaft Vein. There was supposed to be a shallow shaft on it just behind the old mineral water factory. Its tail was presumably on the riverbank where a trickl |
| Topic: Long tor survey | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 13/06/2012 09:28:48 Subject: Long tor survey Andy Hayes and I did a survey back in the 1970s. It did not get published because parts 2 and 3 of our Matlock books were rejected. The extent of workings is shown on an area map in Vol. 1 of the Mine |
| Topic: Can some one please tell me where this mine is located in swadlincote. | |
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historytrog |
Forum: General Chat
Posted: 08/06/2012 10:01:29
Subject: Can some one please tell me where this mine is located in swadlincote.
You can see Swadlincote Old Colliery marked on the select the 1925 Derbyshire 10560 scale map by going to the site http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html and putting in the grid coordinates for |
| Topic: A Via Gellia query | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 06/06/2012 09:10:13 Subject: A Via Gellia query Sorry for the delay – and after all that I cannot be of much help. This would seem to have been one of the mines that I missed (there were a few others missed in the Slinter Wood area too). I can reme |
| Topic: A Via Gellia query | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 02/06/2012 09:17:09
Subject: A Via Gellia query
I will check this out in my records but will not be able to reply until Wednesday because of the Bank Holiday closing at the library. At the instigation of Brian Webb of the Eastwood Cavin |
| Topic: Denby Drury Lowe Archive Album (album) | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 10/05/2012 09:28:23
Subject: Denby Drury Lowe Archive Album (album)
Hello there, Have you tried looking in the local newspapers. Those for the Heanor or Ilkeston area may well have a photo included with the account of his death. The Derby Daily Telegraph has |
| Topic: Ball Eye. | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 19/03/2012 09:27:35
Subject: Ball Eye.
It is news to me that my "magnum opus" on the Matlock area is to be published in 2014. I have not even started doing the diagrams yet and will need help with them. Although it will not include an |
| Topic: Hady Lane Chesterfield | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Hello, I'm new around here...
Posted: 03/03/2012 09:29:25
Subject: Hady Lane Chesterfield
One can view a range of old large scale maps at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html Just type "hady" into the search box |
| Topic: Hady Lane Chesterfield | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Hello, I'm new around here...
Posted: 29/02/2012 09:17:18
Subject: Hady Lane Chesterfield
The Derby Mercury newspaper of 21 July 1775 p4c1 recorded that "Saturday last a Collier going down into a Coal-Pit to work, at Headay, near Chesterfield in this County, he was unfortunately suffo |
| Topic: Mine at Black Rocks, Cromford? | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 14/12/2011 09:23:24 Subject: Mine at Black Rocks, Cromford? These wasteheaps are from the Seventh Meer Shaft and others on Godbehere's Vein where it runs along the south side of Black Rocks. Very large workings at considerable depth. |
| Topic: Shining Sough, Youlgrave, Derbyshire | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 01/12/2011 09:18:20 Subject: Shining Sough, Youlgrave, Derbyshire I had some idle time on the computer recently so I took the opportunity of tracking the location of the final collapse in Shining Sough that Andy Hayes and I reached in 1970 on the barmaster’s map ava |
| Topic: Shining Sough, Youlgrave, Derbyshire | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 26/11/2011 09:38:32 Subject: Shining Sough, Youlgrave, Derbyshire I noticed in 1970 when we did our survey that just inside the entrance to Shining Sough, "Eccles Caving Club Dig" was written on the wall, . I wondered if they had tried digging the final collapse as |
| Topic: Shining Sough, Youlgrave, Derbyshire | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 25/11/2011 09:35:10 Subject: Shining Sough, Youlgrave, Derbyshire About 1972 time, Andy Hayes and myself surveyed Shining Sough so far as the collapse after the coffin level but we did not get down any of the floor shafts. We never published the survey because it wa |
| Topic: fatality @ matlock bath | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 20/08/2011 09:15:42 Subject: fatality @ matlock bath The other fatality in the Hopping system was on 2 July 1992 to Stephen Goodwin of Ripley, aged 23. A novice caver, he dislodged rocks when crawling through a narrow crevice and he was crushed. There w |
| Topic: fatality @ matlock bath | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 19/08/2011 09:20:23
Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
Perhaps this was the accident in Hopping Pipe. I extract the relevant sentence from my book on these mines (it is progressing steadily): On 26 August 1976, a falling rock about ten tons weight in |
| Topic: Miner's graffiti - dates | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 14/05/2011 09:28:54 Subject: Miner's graffiti - dates The ultimate discovery of underground graffiti must be that recorded by Trevor Ford in the “red book” Title [i]Lead mining in the Peak District [/i]published by the Peak District Mines Historical Soci |
| Topic: painting of Lead mining near Caernarvon | |
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historytrog |
Forum: North Wales
Posted: 06/04/2011 09:41:40
Subject: painting of Lead mining near Caernarvon
Just wondering if the Welsh mob have noticed the recent auction of a painting by George Barrett senr entitled “Lead mining near Caernarvon” – rather a good view of some mine buildings etc. Does a |
| Topic: Cheadle Brass Company and Bonsall | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Hello, I'm new around here... Posted: 29/03/2011 14:05:33 Subject: Cheadle Brass Company and Bonsall A few years ago, I talked over with Jim Rieuwerts about us doing a joint article on calamine working in Derbyshire but we kept putting it off because of the limited amount of information available eve |
| Topic: Sough tail @ Cromford | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 02/02/2011 09:25:34
Subject: Sough tail @ Cromford
One other piece of information that may be of interest. A totally reliable source told me about fifteen years ago that someone from an old mining family at Brassington had shown him a reckoning b |
| Topic: Sough tail @ Cromford | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 01/02/2011 09:33:29
Subject: Sough tail @ Cromford
I have looked at the draft of my Matlock book and extracted the following details. In about 1920 the barmaster drew a sketch map marking the tail of this level which he marked as “Water Level” a |
| Topic: Sough tail @ Cromford | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 31/01/2011 09:33:33 Subject: Sough tail @ Cromford I have been offline for a few days so apologies for not responding sooner. The comments given about this sough are perfectly correct. It was a shale gate pumpway to the Bullacetree or Nether Hag veins |
| Topic: Odin mine | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 31/12/2010 09:21:04 Subject: Odin mine A couple of years ago I checked out current explorations of Odin Mine for Jim Rieuwerts. I noted then that Tim Webber of the Sheffield University Speleological Society was active here and exploring th |
| Topic: Nineteenth-century Transport | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques Posted: 03/12/2010 13:44:40 Subject: Nineteenth-century Transport The book that I am preparing on the history of the mines at Matlock in Derbyshire mentions a couple of incidents illustrating the difficulty of transporting heavy mining loads. The 12 ton boiler being |
| Topic: Golconda Baryte Mine | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 24/08/2010 09:22:31
Subject: Golconda Baryte Mine
As no-one else seems to be answering this, I will post a basic answer. The Derby Mercury newspaper of 15 July 1784 p4c3 has an advert for calico workers. Apply to Peter Nightingale Esq at L |
| Topic: brandy bottle vein mine help | |
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historytrog |
Forum: General Chat
Posted: 12/08/2010 09:21:22
Subject: brandy bottle vein mine help
A rather optimistic report on these mines compiled in 1858 mentions the following: The Providence and Edge Rake Shafts are sunk on a very rich vein, supposed to be a continuation of one of the ce |
| Topic: brandy bottle vein mine help | |
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historytrog |
Forum: General Chat
Posted: 11/08/2010 09:18:31
Subject: brandy bottle vein mine help
Reminded me of that amusing snippet in the The Sheffield & Rotherham Independent newspaper of Saturday, September 21, 1889; pg. 6: “The owner of the Wheston Estate, Tideswell, has recently put do |
| Topic: Chellaston Alabaster Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 08/07/2010 09:28:08 Subject: Chellaston Alabaster Mines The list of mine plans on the website of the British Geological Survey http://www.bgs.ac.uk/nocomico/ includes the following details of ones for Derbyshire gypsum mines, all available at the Derbyshir |
| Topic: Morley Park Ironworks | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 01/07/2010 09:29:06 Subject: Morley Park Ironworks I am a Derbyshire historian (not just specializing in mining). Your best source is the 19th century British Newspapers website - I am not sure if this is free to you in NZ. A very quick look at a coup |
| Topic: Sainsbury's Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 17/06/2010 09:37:37 Subject: Sainsbury's Mines I do not have any information about a miniature railway for the Artists Corner chute but my knowledge of the 1950s is very sketchy. Sougher would be better placed to comment about this – or of course |
| Topic: Sainsbury's Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands
Posted: 12/06/2010 14:20:16
Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
Sougher - I am perfectly correct in what I stated and have gone to the trouble of checking the barmaster's records to verify this. We are talking about the 1913 period when the chute was i |
| Topic: Sainsbury's Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 10/06/2010 09:26:34 Subject: Sainsbury's Mines In response to the query by Owd Git, I have extracted the following from the draft of my book. It has already been published on page 69 of [i]The Calendar of the Barmasters’ Derbyshire Lead Mining Rec |
| Topic: Sainsbury's Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 09/06/2010 09:35:12 Subject: Sainsbury's Mines I shall get back to my own computer and copy off a newspaper article about the chute and try to post it on here tomorrow if I can get into the library again. Sorry for the delay. I do not recollect an |
| Topic: Sainsbury's Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 04/06/2010 09:22:39 Subject: Sainsbury's Mines This wooden structure was erected in c1912 as part of a chute to take spar from the mines on top of Masson which the spar miners (wrongly) called High Loft. What Thrutch is recalling was indeed the lo |
| Topic: Sainsbury's Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 01/06/2010 09:30:26 Subject: Sainsbury's Mines In reply to Sougher, there were several Great Rakes in Matlock Liberty. The east-west rake through Masson Cavern was always known to the miners as Bacon Rake (earlier as Nestus Rake). It was only geol |
| Topic: Sainsbury's Mines | |
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historytrog |
Forum: Midlands Posted: 29/05/2010 09:29:07 Subject: Sainsbury's Mines I was interested in the mention by Thrutch of the sale of land at High Tor, which was news to me. The map of the sale indicates that it includes the range of Slit Rake above the valley side. The cave |
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